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  • Thankfully, this is not a frequent scenario, but the seriousness is worth writing about nonetheless.

    A child or spouse calls the office of an elder law attorney. The caller’s loved one is about to be discharged from the hospital or short term rehabilitation, and upon the recommendation of a social worker, is urged to consult with an elder law attorney.

    The child or spouse gets good information on how to begin protecting their loved one, but for various reasons, such as the overwhelming nature of the medical crisis at hand, dealing with health insurance, balancing their own family, job, etc., they put off further meetings with the lawyer, or proceeding with recommended services, and manage to get their loved one back home, or past the immediate crisis.

    Fast forward several months, or even more than a year. Another medical crisis arises and there is no avoiding planning for long term care, which will now certainly be necessary going forward. The same caller calls the office and is now ready to go ahead with the recommended plan.

    Unfortunately, that plan is no longer viable.

    Too often, while their loved one had capacity to sign a power of attorney when they originally called, their loved one’s dementia got worse in the intervening months and he or she is no longer capable of signing a power of attorney with all of the elder law provisions needed to establish Medicaid and protect assets.

    A spouse may have passed away in the intervening months, eliminating certain planning strategies that were available with the original strategy.

    Often, the family shifted and used funds to pay for home health aides without guidance of an elder law attorney, and the transfers will result in a penalty with Medicaid or tax liability that could have been avoided with some guidance.

    It’s possible that many years passed and had the planning been done at least 5 years previously, more of their loved ones assets could have been protected and preserved.

    There is a certainly a time that is too early to begin elder law planning, but there also comes a time that it may be too late.

    If you are a senior, and have not met with an elder law attorney, it will be worth your while to have your situation assessed. Perhaps you have everything in order already, or perhaps it is highly recommended to get some things in place. That one meeting is a small investment in light of the advice and guidance that can potentially save you and your loved ones from tremendous unnecessary frustration and loss later on.

    Who wouldn’t want peace of mind?

    Don’t Wait to See an Elder Law Attorney
  • A bill recently passed the senate and is now in the Assembly amending New York State Bank Laws relating to joint accounts.

    Until now, according to Banking Law Section 675, a deposit made to a joint account in New York State has been considered to be equally owned by the individuals on the account title, and upon the death of the first joint owner, the surviving owner would be the presumed owner of the entire account. While this is obviously common with married couples, it is also common to set up accounts this way between an elderly parent and an adult child. The advantage of this arrangement is the ease of the child to assist with bill payments and managing the elderly parent’s money during lifetime, and then the automatic ownership and access by the child upon the death of the parent. Often, there is an understanding among surviving siblings that one child is simply using the funds for final costs and will split whatever is left over. However, that is not always the case, of course. The presumption of survivor ownership could be rebutted by other children, but the burden of proof would be on the challenger(s).

    The exception to this rule notes the exception of “convenience accounts” to the presumption. Banking Law Section 678 determines that if title of the account is held by the depositor, with the name of a second individual “for the convenience of” the depositor, the second individual has no survivorship rights to the account. During lifetime, the money is considered the depositor’s money only (i.e. the parent), with the second individual (i.e. a child) having access to the funds to pay bills, etc., but after lifetime, the second individual would no longer have access to the money, and the funds remaining in the account would be part of the depositor’s estate.

    There has been significant litigation after the death of a parent involving the determinative ownership of accounts held jointly between a parent and one child, when the parent has several children. The one child that was the joint owner on an account becomes the full owner of deceased mom or dad’s account while the intention of mom or dad was just to make it easier to administer for the family both during and after lifetime. A concern is that mom or dad didn’t realize that only one child will end up with the full account, or perhaps believed that the child would do the moral thing and “split it.”

    The new proposed law, New York State Banking Law Section 675-a, will require new accounts that are established to specifically indicate whether the joint owners have survivorship rights, or whether the account is for convenience only. The new law will reverse the default and if an account doesn’t specify that it is a joint account with rights of survivorship, the jointly owned account will be presumed to be a convenience account, with no survivorship rights.

    That means that if a child is on an account with mom or dad, and the account doesn’t specifically state the right of survivorship, the funds will be part of the parent’s estate and not automatically be owned by the child.

    This may balance the equities between the children, but potentially become a nuisance or even monetary loss if probate would then be required for the surviving family members to access the account. This may certainly not be the intention of the bank depositor and must be carefully understood before establishing a new joint account.

    This new default will only govern accounts opened after it becomes law, but it is important to be aware that title to joint accounts could have significant legal consequences, so it would be wise to review how your existing joint accounts are currently titled and confirm that you intentionally wish it to be set up in the way that it is.

    NYS Banking Law Regarding Joint Accounts